MINUTES FOR THE JUNE 30, 1999 MEETING

 SPONSOR

Ventris Gibson (Deputy Assistant Secretary, Office of Resolution Management, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs) sponsored the meeting.

 EEOC SPEAKER

Carlton Hadden (Acting Director, Office of Federal Operations, Equal Employment Opportunity Commission) spoke on the vision that EEOC Chairwoman Ida Castro had for the EEO process in the federal sector. Mr. Hadden stated that rather than pontificating, he wanted to engage the EEO community. Thus, he made brief introductory remarks, and spent the bulk of his allotted time answering questions from Council members.

 Mr. Hadden explained that Chairwoman Castro is committed to reforming how business is conducted in the federal sector. She wants to spend more resources in outreach and providing technical assistance. This was well received by Luther Santiful (President of the Council), who suggested that EEOC should be spending less money on processing complaints, and diverting more funds on initiatives that prevent complaints.

Mr. Hadden stated that EEOC has already started to reach out to other federal agencies. He mentioned that EEOC is running a pilot program for the U.S. Department of Commerce to process discrimination complaints that are related to the census process.

EEOC will be celebrating its thirty-fifth anniversary in 2000. Chairwoman Castro wants to organize a task force to plan the activities for this important milestone.

The Office of Management and Budget has cleared the proposed regulations for the 1614 process. Currently, the EEOC Commissioners are reviewing them. Some changes have been made to the regulations, and they should be released shortly.

Mr. Hadden mentioned that the National Partnership for Reinventing Government would form a task force to deal with the data problems identified in the recent GAO report, which is mentioned in the What’s New directory of the Council’s webpage.

Jorge Ponce (Vice-Chair of the Council) stated that he was aware that the National Partnership for Reinventing Government had formed a task force to review the complaints process in the federal sector. Thus, he said that it made more sense for EEOC to wait until this task force made its recommendations before releasing the final regulations to the 1614 process. Moreover, Mr. Ponce stated that the Council was strongly opposed the proposal to allow Administrative Judges (AJs) from EEOC issue final decisions on discrimination complaints. On the other hand, Mr. Ponce indicated that the Council agreed with some of the proposed changes, and included a set of recommendations in its position paper (which can be viewed in the Publications directory) to ameliorate the complaints process.

Mr. Hadden said that Mr. Ponce’s recommendation had been mentioned at the previous meeting of the President’s Management Council (PMC). Karen Freeman, from the National Partnership for Reinventing (NPR) Government, stated that Chairwoman Castro had told the PMC that she was unwilling to have the inter-agency task force focus on the pending 1614 regulations and did not want to delay the release of the 1614 regulations. Referring to the 1614 regulations, Ms. Freeman stated that this train had left the station when Ida Castro became the EEOC Chairwoman. The regulations had taken five years (per Mr. Hadden) to go through the review process and get to their current state. If they were stopped to wait for the results of the task force, it’s very unlikely that they would be issued before the end of this administration. Chairwoman Castro would like the NPR task forces to focus on dispute prevention, early dispute resolution, best practices, data collection, and the implementation of pilots. Mr. Hadden stated that Chairwoman Castro is willing to let the National Partnership for Reinventing Government’s Task Force suggest new regulations, or modify existing regulations that would improve the EEO complaint process.

Bonita White (Director, EEO Programs, U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services) commented that regulatory revisions designed to eliminate processing delays (by requiring that complaints shall be processed within specified time periods) are nullified by the continued failure to conduct a meaningful examination of the real causes for processing delays. Specifically, Ms. White indicated that, quite often, EEO Offices are either seriously understaffed and/or staffed with persons whose primary qualifications for working in EEO is their status as former complainants. Additionally, many offices are staffed with persons who otherwise lack the type of technical expertise and analytical skills or preparations beyond on-the-job training, which would enable them to perform EEO complaints processing responsibilities more efficiently. She stated her belief that these circumstances negatively impact on the extent to which EEO Offices are able to meet required timeframes. Consequently, Ms. White urged that EEOC and the NPR Task Force would be better served by addressing such causes of dysfunctionalism, rather than focusing so narrowly on pronouncing revised timeframes or procedural steps as the panacea.

Mr. Hadden indicated that he was aware of the concern that EEO offices are used as a place for problem employees. He mentioned that the new Management Directive addressed the need to have more training for EEO staffs. In addition, he said that the National Partnership for Reinventing Government provided a great opportunity to deal with this challenge. Other Council members pointed out that agencies frequently bypass EEO professionals when filling the top positions in EEO offices, and, instead, hire employees with backgrounds in Human Resources. Other times, attorneys with little EEO experience, get the top positions. These practices create serious performance, quality, and motivational problems, which have a negative impact in how the EEO offices function. Delia Johnson (Vice-Chair of the Council) called for increased empowerment of EEO Directors by having them report to agency heads, like the 1614 regulations call for.

Ms. White also inquired as to how EEOC will be able to meet its responsibilities to issue final decisions under the revised 1614, since it has frequently taken anywhere from 12-18 months after a hearing is conducted to issue recommended decisions. Mr. Hadden responded that EEOC has increased its staff of attorneys in the Office of Federal Operations and in other offices to expedite the issuance of decisions.

A question was asked about the status of Management Directive 715. Mr. Hadden said that it had not been finalized yet.

Several Council members, including Luther Santiful, noted that there had been a abrupt change in the number of appeal decisions issued by the EEOC’s Office of Federal Operations (OFO). They indicated that OFO was not affirming as many decisions in which agencies rejected or modified findings of discrimination issued by Administrative Judges. Some wondered if EEOC had issued a new edict after the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking to the 1614 regulations was issued in 1997. Mr. Ponce indicated that the best way to deal with this concern was for EEOC to publish this data in the annual Federal Sector Report on EEO Complaints Processing and Appeal by Federal Agencies, or to let the General Accounting Office deal with it. Currently, this Report does not have the data on the number of times that OFO upholds agencies when they (agencies) have overturned or modified AJ decisions with finding of discrimination. Mr. Ponce indicated that just like GAO and Congress want to know the number of individuals who have filed EEO complaints, agencies need to know the number of times that OFO upholds their decisions. Mr. Hadden agreed that these statistics need to be published, and stated that EEOC had not issued a new edict to disagree more with agency decisions.

EEOC published on July 12, 1999, at 64 F.R. 37649, that in 1994 and 1996, there were 80 Administrative Judges’ decision favorable to complainants that were reversed by the agency, appealed to the Office of Federal Operations, and for which the Office of Federal Operations issued a decision on the merits. Of those 80 decision, EEOC upheld the Administrative Judge in 53 (66%) instances, and upheld the agency in 27 (34%) instances. On the other hand, EEOC found that in fiscal year 1998, there were 157 decisions by the Office of Federal Operations reviewing Administrative Judges’ decisions adverse to agencies. Of those decisions, 135 (86%) affirmed the Administrative Judge in whole, 8 (5%) reversed in whole or in part, and 14 (9%) modified the Administrative Judge’s decision. Thus, these findings demonstrate that the argument made by the Council members about an abrupt change in the number of OFO decisions that are adverse to agencies has merit.

MISCELLANEOUS

There was a suggestion to include performance standards and position descriptions in the Council’s webpage. Mr. Ponce said that if Council members e-mail these documents in an electronic format to eeo@fedcivilrights.org, he will include them in the Council’s webpage.

Mr. Santiful asked Council members to let him know topics for future meetings, and asked for volunteers to host these meetings.