Council Meeting

Held Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Host: Co-Chair Jorge Ponce 

 

INTRODUCTION

Ms. Delia L. Johnson, Co-Chair of the Council and Director, Office of Civil Rights for International Broadcasting Bureau, opened the meeting with a few remarks and then asked the attendees to give their names, agencies, and positions.

Mr. Jorge Ponce, Council Co-Chair, thanked Jane Hyun for traveling from New York to address the Council.  Mr. Ponce indicated that he was acting as Ms. Hyun’s mentor by introducing her to the Council members.  Mr. Ponce announced that Ms. Hyun had gained national recognition by authoring one of the seminal books on cultural fluency and the Asian community entitled “Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling.” 

JANE HYUN AND CULTURAL FLUENCY

In the “Art of Cultural Fluency” presentation, Ms. Hyun, Founder & President of Hyun & Associates Multicultural Leadership Strategy and Executive Coaching, addressed the following items:

 

a) A critical framework for understanding and managing multicultural diversity; and, 

b)   b) Practical steps that we can begin to take for achieving better teams by understanding how to apply this critical competency.

Cultural Awakening

 

Ms. Hyun opened the workshop session by discussing her own cross-cultural experience and some of the cultural challenges that she encountered when her family moved from South Korea to New York City as an eight years old.  As a student in South Korea, where the style of teaching was done in a teacher-directed manner, she was used to Asian students taking notes from teachers, raising their hands to ask questions, and speaking only when recognized or called upon by their teachers. When she moved to NYC, she was in for a rude awakening when she discovered that students in the United States have many different ways of interacting in a classroom—and found they asked questions out of turn, and, at times, disagreed with the teachers’ views in an open, expressive way. 

 

Ms. Hyun cited Geert Hofstede’s definition of culture, “the collective programming of the mind which distinguishes the members of one group or category of people from another.” She further added that culture is a power set of influences that is reinforced or rewarded in a particular social group.

 

Importance of Cultural Understanding to Manage Workplace behaviors

 

She explained that cultural competency should be important to employers because the workplace has to reflect the diversity found in the marketplace or the population at large to better serve those communities or to penetrate these markets. Lack of cultural understanding leads to interpersonal/team conflict, lack of productivity, and/or protracted litigation.  She indicated that it is important that we keep this perspective in mind as organizations seek to attract, onboard, and retain diverse talent to stay ahead of the competition and to achieve excellence.

 

The Stages in Cultural Awareness: Denial to Cultural Competency

 

She used three different stages that people go through in their journey to becoming more effective at working across cultures. 1) In the beginning of the journey, they judge one culture as better than another; 2) the next stage is when we are all the same (emphasizing assimilation to get ahead). Most agencies in the private and public sector are at this level in their cultural-fluency development, and think that spending money on cultural-fluency training is wasteful; and, 3) when individuals become more culturally astute, they move toward being able to not only understanding someone who is different from them, but able to leverage the differences of others and seeing things through the other persons’ eyes, rather than trying to change them.  She added that even after all these years of progress we’ve made in diversity in the United States, very few organizations have truly reached this stage. Ms Hyun cautioned that without being able to move toward the third stage, there is risk of attrition of top performers, lack of engagement, lack of relevance, and loss of creativity.

 

Research Findings from Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling

 

Based on her extensive research for her book, Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling, and her work with managers, Ms. Hyun found that Asians encountered a variety of personal and organizational barriers on their way to the top of organizations. Too often, organizations are not aware of the diverse cultural characteristics that their employees possess, creating misunderstanding in the office. As she was conducting her research for the book, she interviewed a variety of executives across a range of industries to understand what it took to get to the “senior management ranks” of organizations. Further, some of the cultural values that Asians are raised with are at odds with what it takes to advance beyond middle management ranks.   

 

The career cycle for most employees starts with jobs that value technical skills and accuracy.  These are followed by first-line management jobs, where relationship building with internal and external organizations gets rewarded.  The last group of senior management roles focuses on organizational impact, or on exerting influence beyond your own division.  Many Asians (as well as multicultural professionals in general) tend not to progress in a timely basis to the other cycles in the model because no one takes the time to explain the job requirements for them, or their importance to get promoted.  Considering the lack of Asian employees at the SES rank in the federal sector, there are not many Asian mentors to help with this challenge.

 

Ms. Hyun then proceeded to ask the Council members what were the general accepted rules in the federal sector to get promoted.  Among the responses received were who you know, not what you know; mentorship; assuming supervisory assignments; getting results; cross-organizational understanding; and collaboration. Ms. Hyun added these other commonly accepted “rules” for getting ahead inside organization, which included taking the initiative; showing confidence in your communication style; being aggressive in building your own network; promote your own accomplishments; taking charge of your career development; and, saying yes to stretch assignments.

 

The Loudest Duck Gets Shot vs. Squeaky Wheel gets the Grease”

 

Ms. Hyun used very compelling “proverbs” from the Asian and Western American cultures to describe Asian behavioral patterns – “the loudest duck gets shot,” and “the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.” To describe Western behavioral patterns, she used “the squeaky wheel get the grease,” and the acceptability of learning to toot your own horn.

 

Everyone may not operate from the same lens. 

 

Perceptions vs. Behaviors

 

Ms. Hyun indicated that as we interact with members of other cultures, we see behaviors and we make perceptions – most of which are not favorable, if they differ from our cultural norms.  She used a quotation by Ian Percy, a renowned business speaker and author, to describe this behavior – “We judge others by their behavior. We judge ourselves by our intentions.” She said that we have to reverse this trend if we want to improve our interactions with members of other cultures. 

 

Cultural Understanding – What Are You Really Saying?

 

Asian and Western examples

 

Ms. Hyun shared the importance of understanding different cultural preferences of people, and truly exploring the “how and why” people might behave in certain ways.

 

She discussed the egalitarian power structure that is most common prevalent in western cultures, while she described the hierarchical structure as being the most popular in Asian countries – where employees expect clear direction from their superiors, and managers expect total compliance from their subordinates.  In the West, employees guide their own careers.  In Asia, supervisors guide your careers.

 

Ms. Hyun talked about individualistic cultures, where there is more risk taking and employees are comfortable in expressing their viewpoints.  She described Asian culture as collectivistic – where there is a strong identification with work groups, and with parents (who may have some say in what college you attend, what career you pursue, and, at times, who you marry). 

 

Ms. Hyun explained that relationship building in the West emphasizes “results/getting things done” and “moving quickly to make things happen,” whereas in many other countries, including Asia, Latin America, and parts of Europe, colleagues may focus on the relationship and will want to get to know you on a personal level first.

 

Make Cultural Competence a Core Leadership Skill – A Call to Action

 

Ms Hyun shared the importance of having cultural awareness training for anyone who manages others, as well as culturally relevant leadership/skills development training for diverse professionals (Asians, Latinos, African Americans, and other minority groups) in order that individuals are given the tools to succeed, and organizations continue to create a fertile environment for everyone to reach his/her full potential.

 

With the mission of her organization to “develop culturally fluent leaders™”, Ms. Hyun indicated that those wishing to ask her follow up questions or interested in more information about Jane and her team, please contact her directly at jhyun@hyunassociates.com or by phone at 917-327-0992 or Audrey Lee, Vice President at alee@hyunassociates.com

 

Their website is www.hyunassociates.com

 

Her book, Breaking the Bamboo Ceiling (HarperCollins), now in its 5th printing, can be purchased on www.amazon.com or www.bn.com

 

Doug Conant, CEO or Campbell Soup Company, has called the book, “A MUST READ FOR ANY CEO OR ASPIRING CEO WHO WANTS TO BUILD A CULTURE OF INCLUSION.”

ANNOUNCEMENTS  

Milton Belardo, former Chair of the National Council of Hispanic Employment Program Managers (NCHEPM), announced that the U.S. Department of Commerce, together with the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and the NCHEPM, will host a symposium for Hispanic Employment Program Managers and Special Emphasis Program Managers and a Career Fair on Monday, September 20, 2010, at the U.S. Department of Commerce, located at 14th and Constitution Avenue, NW, in Washington, DC, and accessible by Metro at Federal Triangle stop on the blue/orange lines, and Metro Center on the red line. To get additional information, contact Milton at mbelardo@doc.gov. 

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